“理解人脑的一切”貌似不是“设计出比人脑聪明的东西”的必要条件

送交者: 蓝隼于 2008-01-09, 13:31:16:

回答: 如果计算机的AI有一天..... 由 hxcq 于 2008-01-09, 12:21:44:

起码有一台电脑叫深蓝的已经在起码一个方面(国际象棋)比人脑里的顶级高手还聪明了。这还不是在对人脑有多少了解的基础上出来的。以后，我看只要人类不要太早把自己给灭了，造出超越人脑的东西可能性很高很高。自然世界根本没有智慧的就是个自然选择对突变的筛选积累就能产生出人脑来，凭什么说人脑就不能作得更好些？

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it is a lot of fun to try and thus it is unstoppable. - 短江学者 (97 bytes) 2008-01-09, 13:44:10 (196870)
The Emperor's New Mind (无内容) - Amsel (0 bytes) 2008-01-09, 13:37:03 (196866)
- "Penrose states that his ideas on the nature of consciousness are - Enlighten (20 bytes) 2008-01-09, 14:12:48 (196892)
- Darwin's Dangerous Idea有一章专门驳斥它 - 方舟子 (18 bytes) 2008-01-09, 13:52:44 (196875)
- NATURE,Vol 440,30 March 2006 argues against it - 短江学者 (188 bytes) 2008-01-09, 13:48:55 (196872)
- 什么书？没看过，说什么的？ - 蓝隼 (5 bytes) 2008-01-09, 13:39:03 (196868)
  - "Human consciousness is non-algorithmic, - Amsel (243 bytes) 2008-01-09, 13:49:29 (196873)
    - 这点是共识不是彭的贡献（奇怪这里倒有不少反对此共识的） (无内容) - 短江学者 (0 bytes) 2008-01-09, 13:57:22 (196879)
      - 这个共识是你定的吧 (无内容) - 方舟子 (0 bytes) 2008-01-09, 14:03:31 (196885)
        
        我下面说了non-Turing是共识。non-algorithmic要看如何定义algorithmic (无内容) - 短江学者 (0 bytes) 2008-01-09, 14:07:40 (196888)
        
        who said non-Turing是共识? 谁的共识？Turing and algorithmic - steven (242 bytes) 2008-01-09, 14:45:14 (196911)
        
        因为多数脑行为认为牵涉模拟量运算。底下几人坚持二进数就行 (无内容) - 短江学者 (0 bytes) 2008-01-09, 14:13:05 (196894)
        
        This is bs. Turing machine deals with anything that can be - steven (450 bytes) 2008-01-09, 14:56:52 (196922)
        
        自然不是用图灵机决定地球轨迹的.我们懂了后可用图灵机算. (无内容) - 短江学者 (0 bytes) 2008-01-09, 15:21:53 (196939)
        
        what did you wanna say? First Turing machine is not binary, - steven (130 bytes) 2008-01-09, 15:33:50 (196941)
      - sorry non-Turing, non-algorithmic is too vague (无内容) - 短江学者 (0 bytes) 2008-01-09, 14:01:01 (196882)
        
        No at all, non-Turing and non-algorithmic are equaivlent - steven (150 bytes) 2008-01-09, 15:36:09 (196942)
    - Any approve of that? Is there any evidance showing - 蓝隼 (245 bytes) 2008-01-09, 13:55:16 (196877)
      - "any formal system is limited" && "mind is not limited" - Amsel (337 bytes) 2008-01-09, 14:12:11 (196891)
        
        why not? has there any proof the mind is not limited like that? - steven (170 bytes) 2008-01-09, 15:00:16 (196926)

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