送交者: 无语 于 2006-1-20, 15:39:56:

网上有一些为丘小庆辩护的论点实在可笑至极，不值一驳。比如投资方未得到丘的“手把手”指点，因此不能重复；或 科研中不可重复的实验很多，不能说错等等。第一，你丘小庆卖了专利给人家，还藏了私，打起官司来怎么说的过去？第二，提取的一个蛋白，只要不降解，不变性，谁提出来的都应该一样。丘如果有这些技术，也应该在转让技术中包括。而如转让文件中没有这些内容，我们只能推断这个蛋白很稳定，不存在这些问题。第三，任何搞科研的人都知道自己的结果没人能重复意味着什么。轻的别人在cite时会说however，we can not observe similar phenomena ，重的就是整个被denied。我所在的领域就有一lab，发了nature paper，别人都不能重复。结果同行写review时都不提。Nature paper不能写入review！最后那个方向就dead了。如果丘敢宣称他的东东别人就是不能重复，等待他实验室的命运也将是dead.

• 我觉的你前面写的都很对，但这个贴怎么就变得这么极端 - 阿布 (275 bytes) 2006-1-20, 19:48:23
  • 打假丘谈论技术是误入歧途，因为技术上的可行性不代表丘的东东有啥用 - trus (0 bytes) 2006-1-21, 00:13:11
    • 好象YANG FAN除了以外没人给丘的文章背书。 - fair (0 bytes) 2006-1-21, 10:19:44
      • 好象除了YANG FAN以外没人给丘的文章背书。 - fair (0 bytes) 2006-1-21, 10:20:23
• 通过基因工程把两个不同功能的肽融合表达，已经是一个制药潮流 - 桂铭 (177 bytes) 2006-1-20, 19:17:02
  • I agree. He may need to construct a protein with functional domain only - Godfather (4 bytes) 2006-1-20, 19:37:35
• how to prove "不变性"? - fair (0 bytes) 2006-1-20, 15:43:54
  • 如何证明西藏药业的蛋白没变性？ - fair (0 bytes) 2006-1-20, 22:04:44
  • To check CD spectra - Godfather (0 bytes) 2006-1-20, 16:14:30
    • It only suggest that 2nd structure not changed, not 3D structure. - fair (0 bytes) 2006-1-20, 16:22:01
      • re - 无语 (341 bytes) 2006-1-20, 16:34:32
        • I don't know your field, but it is very hard to repeat japanese paper. - fair (4 bytes) 2006-1-20, 17:22:07
          • re - 无语 (173 bytes) 2006-1-20, 17:31:29
        • I mean CD spectrum can not guarantee the protein activity. - fair (0 bytes) 2006-1-20, 16:45:54
        • I mean CD spectrum can not guarantee the protein activity. - fair (0 bytes) 2006-1-20, 16:45:50
          • YES - 无语 (334 bytes) 2006-1-20, 16:58:10
            • Then how do you sure 西藏药业's protein not 变性 - fair (0 bytes) 2006-1-20, 21:45:40
        • I am not interested in their business quarrel, only Qiu's nature publication. - fair (0 bytes) 2006-1-20, 16:43:01
          • re - 无语 (112 bytes) 2006-1-20, 16:48:09
            • It is very possible that qiu played some trick but you need prove it. - fair (0 bytes) 2006-1-20, 16:50:40
              • To run assays on membrane model or bactericidal activities within days - Godfather (3 bytes) 2006-1-20, 18:02:01
              • re - 无语 (75 bytes) 2006-1-20, 17:03:07
      • Then, to check if it's still active after certain treatments - Godfather (0 bytes) 2006-1-20, 16:32:03
  • check the 23rd pair of chromosomes. - mangolasi (0 bytes) 2006-1-20, 16:09:33
    • What about XXY or XXXY like 炎阳? - fair (0 bytes) 2006-1-20, 22:50:34
    • How to eat mango? peeled or not peeled? :-)) - fair (0 bytes) 2006-1-20, 16:16:54
      • Peeled. Mango's skin is very harsh and 涩。 - mangolasi (28 bytes) 2006-1-20, 16:18:19
        • Thanks. - fair (18 bytes) 2006-1-20, 16:28:21
  • to check if this person remain the same sex as born. - steven (0 bytes) 2006-1-20, 15:45:01
    • LOL - fair (0 bytes) 2006-1-20, 15:48:28

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