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评施一公支持者在Nature网站上的评论

作者：trus

　　对以下的评论的品论：

　　1、请那些说1.7m是谣言的澄清他们是如何判断是谣言的？如果也是听说，
就不要下此结论。

　　2、施一公和颜宁，请收起你们恐吓“nature”的言语，别人有权质疑你们
的工资待遇。

　　3、做为高调爱国的施一公，请你教育好你的弟子，不要四处丢人现眼。什
么和你不是一起的话就不要再说了，以虚假掩盖虚假只能越来越黑。

　　4、不让人有疑问和纳闷要么勇敢澄清，要么低调专心做事。你们只是普通
的研究人员，做你们份内的事情。中国的问题之一就是挂羊头卖狗肉，在其位不
谋其政。

　　5、施一公那点小花花肠子是华人都懂。不就是自己学术做得不错，别人的
赞扬声多了便飘飘然，认为自己无所不能，认为自己的理念于是乎可以强加在别
人身上的了，认为自己可以改变别人了，认为别人不如自己爱国了等。这些都是
“学而优则士”的沉疴，当然这儿“士”是泛指，还包括除士大夫以外的一切与
“学”无关的事。

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Published online 28 January 2009 | Nature 457, 522 (2009) | doi:10.1038/457522a
Corrected online: 29 January 2009

News

China targets top talent from overseas
Package aims to entice high-flyers back home.

Jane Qiu

China has announced a nationwide plan that promises top salaries and attractive funding to elite researchers who are working overseas and willing to return to the country. The plan, known as the one-thousand-talents scheme, aims to boost China's innovation capability.

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It is perfectly normal to lure top talents with high salary, no matching salary for their fellow colleagues. Since this practice has not been an outstanding issue in western world, I don't see why it might become an important issue among domestic Chinese researchers, particular when they are trying to align their system with the western styles.
28 Jan, 2009 Posted by: Q Z It is important to define what a "top" scientist is. Is s/he a person having highest number of publications in "top" journals or is s/he a person having made the greatest discoveries? Is s/he a person swift in following trends and thus more "productive" or is s/he a person intelligent in breaking ground and thus is more likely suppressed? What kind a P/E (price over earning) value will this big salary-recruiting and huge grant-supporting effort will get at the end? Money can buy many things but not all the discoveries.
28 Jan, 2009 Posted by: truth science There are apparently different opinions about the annual salary of Mr. Shi Yigong. It would be more convincing if the author could provide the source of this "1.7-million-renminbi salary of Shi Yigong".
28 Jan, 2009 Posted by: Q Z As far as I know the rumor of "1.7-million-renminbi salary of Shi Yigong" came from Fang Shi-min, who criticized Shi Yigong in his xys.org website. Dr. Rao Yi, also mentioned in this article, has confirmed in his blog that it's not true. He said Shi Yigong's salary is less than 1 million. Fang Shi-min then claimed that a professor in Tshing Hua University leaked this information in internet, but nobody saw it except him. It's funny that this kind of rumor finally be published in Nature.
28 Jan, 2009 Posted by: Y C Most of reports about China in Nature like to make news basing on rumor. This report is not the first one and will not be the last one.
28 Jan, 2009 Posted by: Tangent Tan I am very surprised to see a rumor like "the 1.7-million-renminbi salary of Shi Yigong" can be published in Nature, which is one of the most respected magazines in science. ----a faculty from Tsinghua University
28 Jan, 2009 Posted by: Jun Li If Yigong Shi can lead China's life science into a world-leader, then the 1.7 million salary is not really a big deal. However, does he really have such a potential? What kind of evidence indicating his big potential as even rumored as winning a Nobel Prize for China?
28 Jan, 2009 Posted by: truth science This comment has been removed by the moderator
28 Jan, 2009 Posted by: truth science Most scientists recruited from overseas Chinese feel that they are very limited to be productive in China. Therefore, it is more important for China to figure out how to put those overseas-recruited scientists in positions where they can make decisions so that they can improve China?s science system, the organization, administration of funding, and management of research institutions so that they can create an environment and better manage our institutes for scientists to be productive. Now the problem is that a relative small number of them are appointed to those positions for decoration. We need the recruited to form a powerful force in order to push our reform forward.
28 Jan, 2009 Posted by: G. C Nature is causing serious damage to Yigong Shi and Tsinghua University by publishing erroneous information as fact. Nature should publicly apologize to Yigong Shi and Tsinghua, publish a correction, and accept all legal consequences.
28 Jan, 2009 Posted by: Yigong Shi It is true that most scientists recruited from overseas Chinese feel that they are very limited to be productive in China. But it is also true that China does not lack of talent guys, however the condtion in which a scientist can be brought into full play is poor, and most younger scientists can rarely get the research funds needed to fulfill his talent. If the scientific leaders think really more on such aspects and take some measures to overcome it, it is better for China to accelerate its S&R development.
28 Jan, 2009 Posted by: Ting Wang This is absolutely a right and smart move -- though it comes a bit late, still better than never. Indeed, the only way to boost China?s lagging research in practically every field of endeavor is to lure the talented researchers from America and Europe to return home via handsome rewards. Providing the high-flyers with unduly huge salary may end up counter productive, drawing red eyes from the local counterparts. But to whip up their patriotism to work for a better and stronger China could well serve as a necessary (if not sufficient) incentive for long term commitments. A competitive China is essential in helping a brighter tomorrow for all. (Tan Boon Tee, btt1943@yahoo.com)
28 Jan, 2009 Posted by: B T Tan I totally support Shi Yigong's action against Nature.
29 Jan, 2009 Posted by: Gui Ming Starlakeporch Nature is very disappointing in spreading unconfirmed rumors, rather than providing insightful comments. Nature should file an official apology to Dr. Yigong Shi and make correction immediately.
29 Jan, 2009 Posted by: Ning Yan It is wiser for the Chinese government to raise salaries and improve research enviornment of talent scientists based upon positions and contributions, but not upon a domestic or oversea origin. If most domestic talent scientists, who were recruited earlier, work and live in a satisfactory enviornment, the oversea talents would believe the long term commitment of the government more easily.
29 Jan, 2009 Posted by: Ying Jin Comment on the "1.7-million-renminbi salary of Shi Yigong": This piece of information is under severe debate a few days ago on internet forums, as it is never substantiated by Dr Shi or authorities at Tsinghua University. The first person who "leaked" this information is Dr Shimin Fang, who claimed that he got this from a so-called insider, and yet nobody has stood out to corroborate it since. Therefore, we may refer to it as a simple and sheer rumor. Nature, as a well-respected journal, should apologize to Dr Shi and readers for publishing such unsubstantiated personal information. Spreading rumor in China is one thing; spreading rumor by Nature will bear more negative impact to the Chinese science community considering the influence of Nature itself. I sincerely hope that Nature realizes its mistake and publishes a retraction in the near future.
29 Jan, 2009 Posted by: Kevin Song Nature has now corrected the error regarding Shi Yigong?s salary. Nature apologises for the mistake, and for any distress caused.
29 Jan, 2009 Posted by: Mark Peplow Nature should get a confirmation from Tsinghua Univ. before tht news about Shi's salary was published.
29 Jan, 2009 Posted by: Gang Sui The report is right in raising awareness for supporting domestic talents in China. However, I'm deeply disturbed by the irresponsible quotation of a rumor circulating on the internet about Dr. Yigong Shi's salary at Tsinghua University as an evidence for domestic dissent. Dr. Yi Rao at Peking University confirmed that Yigong Shi?s salary at Tsinghua is mo more than 1 million RMB (~ 146,000 US$). As far as I know, Dr. Shi?s salary stands at 600,000-700,000 RMB (~ 88,000-102,000 US$). I wonder if the author had contacted Dr. Shi or Tsinghua University before publishing the report, which is a standard procedure in journalism. Nature, as a prestigious top scientific journal, should not mix science with fiction and tolerate defamation of any individual-even if unintended-by spreading unconfirmed rumors. The cavalier style of the author disappoints me.
29 Jan, 2009 Posted by: Yalin Wang Please provide evidence for "1.7-million-renminbi salary of Shi Yigong".
29 Jan, 2009 Posted by: Leo JunLei CHANG Please provide evidence for "1.7-million-renminbi salary of Shi Yigong".
29 Jan, 2009 Posted by: Leo JunLei CHANG 】

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