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送交者: Latino2 于 2007-04-25, 14:33:50:

Here is my understanding, but the case is simplified:

1. 如果有近视基因，又斗须的话，一般都会成近视眼，与小心预防与否几乎无关;

2. 如果没有近视基因，一般不会成近视眼，与斗不斗须，小心预防与否几乎无关;

3. 如果有近视基因，但不斗须的话，可以不成近视眼

方说的是case 1 and 2，故儒等恐怕说的是case #3

所有跟贴:

似乎问题的关键是到底有多少人有近视基因. 是否其实大家几乎都有这个基因? - apple (114 bytes) 2007-04-25, 19:43:08 (137427)
- 据我观察这个比例也不太大 - eng (125 bytes) 2007-04-25, 20:35:03 (137436)
还是太简化了. - 鹏归 (135 bytes) 2007-04-25, 19:08:21 (137422)
还有一个问题就是说阅读量的多少、强度跟近视的关系如何 - 自如 (417 bytes) 2007-04-25, 17:15:33 (137401)
我主要担心读者会误读 - 自如 (506 bytes) 2007-04-25, 16:46:00 (137395)
- 如果仔细读，而且稍微想一想，从方的文章中也能看出来你所说的 - fuzzify (178 bytes) 2007-04-25, 16:56:19 (137398)
  - 对呀，所以我才担心读者会误读 - 自如 (419 bytes) 2007-04-25, 17:25:09 (137402)
    - Does wearing eye glasses prevent further deterioiation? - HunHunSheng (469 bytes) 2007-04-25, 17:42:45 (137407)
      - No! 二十岁后度数也会加深。 (无内容) - ym (0 bytes) 2007-04-25, 19:34:16 (137426)
  - The people affect6ed with myopia has different degree - HunHunSheng (212 bytes) 2007-04-25, 17:04:44 (137399)
    - I guess that they score it as "yes" or "no" - Latino2 (23 bytes) 2007-04-25, 18:01:57 (137411)
      - "regardless of the severity" (无内容) - Latino2 (0 bytes) 2007-04-25, 18:05:26 (137412)
- and it is not just myopia vs nonmyopia - HunHunSheng (67 bytes) 2007-04-25, 16:53:52 (137397)
- 如果你没有 cancer 基因 like a shark，you can enjoy smoking (无内容) - HunHunSheng (0 bytes) 2007-04-25, 16:51:40 (137396)
什么叫斗须？是蛐蛐儿打架的意思吗？ - shine (78 bytes) 2007-04-25, 16:16:12 (137384)
- 福建口音是不是塌猪？ (无内容) - 老中一号 (0 bytes) 2007-04-25, 17:28:59 (137405)
  - 福建方言众多你说的是哪一个？ - 蓝隼 (62 bytes) 2007-04-26, 01:33:11 (137478)
    - 塔侧 (无内容) - ncat (0 bytes) 2007-04-26, 10:21:52 (137524)
- 湖南口音“读书”的意思，在图雅的文中见过。 (无内容) - Scratch (0 bytes) 2007-04-25, 16:24:53 (137388)
  - 写得很有趣：http://www.xys.org/xys/netters/Tuya/prose/reading_books.txt (无内容) - fuzzify (0 bytes) 2007-04-25, 16:29:25 (137389)
    - Why am I the only person who is cnsiderate enough to add URL tags? - HunHunSheng (155 bytes) 2007-04-25, 16:33:07 (137392)
- 读书 :) - Latino2 (26 bytes) 2007-04-25, 16:24:08 (137387)
what if larger than 80% people have 近视基因? - 008 (315 bytes) 2007-04-25, 15:38:30 (137382)
- 族群间差别这么大的话，说明环境的作用确实小。 (无内容) - Latino2 (0 bytes) 2007-04-25, 16:01:06 (137383)
  - Not if different ethnic group live in different environments (无内容) - HunHunSheng (0 bytes) 2007-04-25, 16:19:20 (137385)
    - 新加坡的数据应该说明问题 - Latino2 (230 bytes) 2007-04-25, 16:22:36 (137386)
      - Singapore Indian data indicate differently (无内容) - wasguru (0 bytes) 2007-04-25, 16:45:41 (137394)
      - This I cetainly agree. But the concsion in Fang's article - HunHunSheng (577 bytes) 2007-04-25, 16:31:25 (137391)
Dr. Chris Hammond's explanation - wasguru (1112 bytes) 2007-04-25, 15:20:42 (137375)
- 如果真的高达80%的话，说明预防没啥用了 - Latino2 (74 bytes) 2007-04-25, 15:29:14 (137377)
  - 但是秦人的读书强度也很极端 (无内容) - wasguru (0 bytes) 2007-04-25, 15:32:25 (137381)
  - 可以高考, 不要考P大就行了, (无内容) - 008 (0 bytes) 2007-04-25, 15:30:00 (137378)
    - 最好是不和秦人结婚，找不戴眼镜的狄夷 (无内容) - Latino2 (0 bytes) 2007-04-25, 15:32:19 (137380)
      - 这年头，你也不知道别人是基因好还是做了激光手术 (无内容) - 你太有才了 (0 bytes) 2007-04-25, 16:33:54 (137393)
从近期亚洲人近视率高达80%以上来看 - wasguru (217 bytes) 2007-04-25, 15:00:11 (137369)
- 当然，"不斗须"是简单的说法 - Latino2 (117 bytes) 2007-04-25, 15:20:36 (137374)
- In a typical graduate class in 1977 or 78 - HunHunSheng (109 bytes) 2007-04-25, 15:09:18 (137373)
- 1.可以比较不同人种之间有近视基因的比例？ - fuzzify (145 bytes) 2007-04-25, 15:07:34 (137372)
  - 有调查，秦人最高 (无内容) - Latino2 (0 bytes) 2007-04-25, 15:25:06 (137376)
    - 说明死读书的秦人多. - 鹏归 (17 bytes) 2007-04-25, 19:50:52 (137429)
- Reading novels inside a quilt for hours make a big difference (无内容) - HunHunSheng (0 bytes) 2007-04-25, 15:00:58 (137371)
I figure that real meaning is 小心预防 is impossible - HunHunSheng (270 bytes) 2007-04-25, 14:52:56 (137364)
- 你这次怎么不说方的文章是show-off?（表明自己没有近视基因) (无内容) - fuzzify (0 bytes) 2007-04-25, 15:00:27 (137370)
- On the other hand, since a little caution does not need much effort - HunHunSheng (245 bytes) 2007-04-25, 14:55:39 (137367)
- I think that this is Fang's point. (无内容) - Latino2 (0 bytes) 2007-04-25, 14:55:16 (137366)
爱斯基摩人的例子不也说了#3？ (无内容) - fuzzify (0 bytes) 2007-04-25, 14:39:46 (137360)
- ?? where is 爱司机摸? (无内容) - Latino2 (0 bytes) 2007-04-25, 14:42:47 (137362)
  - 见方的原文:当眼保健操成为传统。 - fuzzify (316 bytes) 2007-04-25, 14:53:47 (137365)
    - I see, thanks. (无内容) - Latino2 (0 bytes) 2007-04-25, 14:56:04 (137368)

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